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to cut is the defense department. >> education would be cut by $2.3 billion. medicare payments to hospitals would be slashed by 5.6 billion. and custom and border patrol would lose $823 million. >> the point is to make it painful so they want to cut with a scalpel than a m machete. but it's not clear they will. >> bret: please join chris wallace for "fox news sunday" this weekend. he will have an exclusive interview with house speaker john boehner on the fiscal cliff negotiations. chris will talk to tim geithner. a "fox news sunday" you do not want to miss. check your local listings. consumer spending was down .2 of a percentage point in october. the dow finished ahead. the nasdaq lost two. europe's economy remains in the tank. 17 euro zone countries have a combined unemployment rate of 11.7%. that is the highest since the introduction of the common currency in 1999. 18.7 million people are out of work for the euro zone. pain and greece have jobless rates of more than 25%. back at home, the question of who will be the nation's top diplomat in president obama's second term conti
hurting the growth of the infrastructure and education of our people and the pillar, the pillars of our economic strength. >> bret: that is a message, steve, we cut enough. yesterday, i should point out that senator reid meant to say $1 trillion. not one $1 billion on the sound bite we played to be fair to him. but nancy pelosi is clearly saying we're done. >> you see this in the comments that the democratic members of the house made to the public. big argue in politico, not refrenching on entitlement. that is not going to work. if that he are not willing to give on more spending the republicans are increasingly thinking fine. go over the cliff then. you take us over the cliff. >> bret: what leverage do republicans have? >> republicans don't have a lot of leverage. this is the disagreement with charles on his take on what leverage republicans have. i don't think they have much leverage. if the question is sign up for tax increases, so that you can have a terrible deal that doesn't do anything to reign in entitlement and doesn't make serious spending cuths you are seeing more and more re
led to prop 187, which banned illegal immigrants from health and education. that was ultimately overturned. from then on, that was a democratic state. i think that proposals like self-deportation, which hit home to families here even if you are here legally. the idea that your friends or family might have to go home, wait in line, and maybe never come back, that hits home. i think that is viewed as a hostile act. you have to get past that. personally, i would like to go to the day of john mccain in 2007 and look for a pathway to citizenship. if that is too far for the party, then look at the things like to new kay bailey hutchison legislation, which would make a pathway for young immigrants. >> bret: tucker? >> actually, california voted for clinton before pete wilson got involved in the debate over whether illegal immigrants ought to have welfare benefits. democrat is a democratic state because it's state of immigrants for the reasons that charles mentioned. what is missing is not all immigrants are the same. many latin american countries send us immigrants that go on welfare.
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